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Knots in leader
- mustang_50matt
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Knots in leader
I've noticed that after a practice session I had 3 or so knots in the last foot or so of my leader and also in my tippet. Being a green FF I'm not able to consistently throw tight loops yet, I'm actually throwing a combo of tight, open and tailing. Am I right in thinking that I'm getting those knots when I get a bit bungled up on a tailing loop cast? Next, what's the best way to eliminate this problem? I'm geussing it's in my stops? I've been reading thru the site and the board a lot lately but there may be something I missed...Or maybe it's just time for me to spend an afternoon with someone that knows what the hell they're doing.
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Hey Matt,
Welcome to the board
You're right on with thinking it's a tailing loop. The leader is crossing itself and tying into a knot. Here's a good bit from Paul about Tailing Loops.
We can head out and work on wrangling those out Good to loop on a practice leader as well so you don't screw up a nice fishing leader.
Eric
Welcome to the board
You're right on with thinking it's a tailing loop. The leader is crossing itself and tying into a knot. Here's a good bit from Paul about Tailing Loops.
We can head out and work on wrangling those out Good to loop on a practice leader as well so you don't screw up a nice fishing leader.
Eric
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mustang_50matt wrote:Or maybe it's just time for me to spend an afternoon with someone that knows what the hell they're doing.
hey Matt,
yup, looks like you might have to do some traveling though. the locals don't seem to be up to par :p :whistling:
just kidding. Eric'll set you straight.
as you see on the Tailing Loops link it can be any number of reasons. most likely you'll need an observer to find out what's going on. try to figure out which one you're more notorious at and work on that one first.
it can be a quick fix or a long process. be patient and work at it with you're lovely daughter
cheers,
marc
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From the link above:
Forward Creep
...Your backcast is travelling backwards, your rod tip is travelling forwards, the backcast straightens pulling the rod tip under the Straight Line Path and you throw a classic tailing loop.
Is this what happens actually?
Forward Creep
...Your backcast is travelling backwards, your rod tip is travelling forwards, the backcast straightens pulling the rod tip under the Straight Line Path and you throw a classic tailing loop.
Is this what happens actually?
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Daniel,Daniel wrote:I'm not sure that "the backcast straightens pulling the rod tip under the straight line path", or if you pull the tip under the straight line path by reducing your arc (via creep) for the given length of line. Either way the rod tip is dipping under the SLP.
What do you think Aitor?
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Daniel
IMHO the straightening of the backcast doesn't pull the rod tip under SLP.
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- mustang_50matt
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Paul Arden wrote:Can you throw tight/open/tailing by choice? That's a great way to find consistency in casting.
Cheers and welcome!
Paul
I'm going to have to answer this with "not really". What I think I'm doing is bouncing back and fourth. I'll throw an open loop and try to fix it and I'll work into a tight loop for a couple casts then they'll start tailing, then all over again. Sometimes it's a open then tailing back to back. I think Marc is right. I'll just have to bribe Eric into helping me out for an afternoon.
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Aitor, Daniel, let's move the Creep and SLP discussion over to another thread. Thanks guys! Matt
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You are right, Matt. Never mind.
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Which Matt?
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Youmattklara wrote:Which Matt?
Aitor is not like us, he is Spanish, and therefore completely mad.
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- mustang_50matt
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Now that all the confusion of the Matts is taken care of. (I have a doormat that says "Hi, I'm mat")
I took my little girl out for a practice session today, only about 10 minutes though...it's a bit chilly for her to be out and she found a patch of frost on the sidewalk and kept slipping on it.
Anyway, I tried to concentrate on not creeping and it seemed to help quite a bit. I'm still throwing a tailing every once in a while but not nearly as much. My loops are looking a lot better but I would say I still have a long way to go for them to be considered good.
Thanks for the help guys! I'll keep practicing.
Cheers,
-Matt-
I took my little girl out for a practice session today, only about 10 minutes though...it's a bit chilly for her to be out and she found a patch of frost on the sidewalk and kept slipping on it.
Anyway, I tried to concentrate on not creeping and it seemed to help quite a bit. I'm still throwing a tailing every once in a while but not nearly as much. My loops are looking a lot better but I would say I still have a long way to go for them to be considered good.
Thanks for the help guys! I'll keep practicing.
Cheers,
-Matt-
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