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very small streams
- mustang_50matt
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very small streams
I want to FF a very small mountain stream. The brush is quite thick so there's barely any room to cast. The fish are small, but hungry and aggressive. I was thinking of sticking a reel on my MPR and using a very short leader. Any other suggestions?
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IMHO the MPR is much too stiff for this application. Most of the time you're just casting the leader and a bit of fly line. I've tried it with lines up to 8wt; at close range it's too stiff, at long range it's too short to keep the line off you and the water.
Give it a try anyway. If you don't like it or if you're planning on doing any significant amount of that kind of fishing Cabelas makes a TQR in 5ft 2wt for $109.
Chase
Give it a try anyway. If you don't like it or if you're planning on doing any significant amount of that kind of fishing Cabelas makes a TQR in 5ft 2wt for $109.
Chase
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I sometime fish small streams like this:
I use a 5 ft. White River 3 wt. overlined with a 6 wt. line. Works perfect. You can shoot tight loops under tags and it mends like crazy if you want to roll cast down stream.
Godspeed,
Bob
I use a 5 ft. White River 3 wt. overlined with a 6 wt. line. Works perfect. You can shoot tight loops under tags and it mends like crazy if you want to roll cast down stream.
Godspeed,
Bob
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Hi Mustang,
I've fished the MPR with a 5 line, and although it copes, it's not pretty. There is excessive tip bounce and it feels clumsy. You'd be much better off spending some money on a decent rod. As a one-off it's fun, but for serious fishing you're going to want something that feels and casts great.
Cheers, Paul
I've fished the MPR with a 5 line, and although it copes, it's not pretty. There is excessive tip bounce and it feels clumsy. You'd be much better off spending some money on a decent rod. As a one-off it's fun, but for serious fishing you're going to want something that feels and casts great.
Cheers, Paul
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Bob, my stream is about 1/5 that size. WAY tiny. I don't usually get up to that stream just to fish, it's usually a "Take the family on a picnic and sneak away to fish for a while when nobody is looking" deal. I just can't justify buying a completely new rod just for that, and a regular fly rod is to much in that brush, so the MPR will have to do me. As far as being clumsy... That's me anyway :p
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That's tricky water Bob... what's your leader design? And casting range?Bobinmich wrote:I sometime fish small streams like this:
I use a 5 ft. White River 3 wt. overlined with a 6 wt. line. Works perfect. You can shoot tight loops under tags and it mends like crazy if you want to roll cast down stream.
Godspeed,
Bob
Keen to hear more
Best,
Andy
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Matt,
That stream is less than 5 feet wide. You must be fishing a trickle. I have found the best way to fish these streams is down. Take a small caddis and smoosh it in the water so it floats in the film. Fish it down mending from spot to spot back and forth. Sometimes you can manage a side arm cast back under the tags. If you get a wider spot, you can sneak around on the bank and fish it up. Steeple casts and side arm casts are the rule of the day with a lot of just mending and following the line down.
Andy,
Leader? Ha! What leader! All I use is about a foot of .020, then a foot of .015, then a foot of .009 and about 18" of 5X. Nail knot to the flyline to get a stiff union.
I use a lot of bug juice because "they aint't no wind nor sunshine" to keep them off.
Bob
That stream is less than 5 feet wide. You must be fishing a trickle. I have found the best way to fish these streams is down. Take a small caddis and smoosh it in the water so it floats in the film. Fish it down mending from spot to spot back and forth. Sometimes you can manage a side arm cast back under the tags. If you get a wider spot, you can sneak around on the bank and fish it up. Steeple casts and side arm casts are the rule of the day with a lot of just mending and following the line down.
Andy,
Leader? Ha! What leader! All I use is about a foot of .020, then a foot of .015, then a foot of .009 and about 18" of 5X. Nail knot to the flyline to get a stiff union.
I use a lot of bug juice because "they aint't no wind nor sunshine" to keep them off.
Bob
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Not to poach too hard on this thread, but the downstream seems the only way sometimes. I happened to be walking up a small stream yesterday. Let's just go ahead and call it a ditch Well, as I was crossing over at an ag road, I noticed a nice brown move up the willow edge and hold. Of course as I was desperately trying to arm myself and keep an eye, it doubled back and slid casually into a good sized culvert (didn't come out the far side). After waiting a bit and unsure what to do, I threw a hopper in and fed line. No luck but it sounds like I was kinda on track with the downstream hang.
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