The All Blacks. - Is the dream over ??

Voltzy · Post by **Voltzy** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 11:55 am

I dont like the current style of "test" play-particularly the way the africans play (but they are VERY good). What happened to the "running game"?

Whakamahi kid · Post by **Whakamahi kid** » Sun Aug 09, 2009 3:27 pm

David Anderson wrote:
Marc LaMouche wrote:it's just a bluff.
What, not giving too much away before they choke at the world cup ?

:p

hopefully by not peaking in-between world cups we may well win the next one :p
we will see how SA fair against the ab's in nz especially Steyn deals with a bit of wind

my concern is more Oz with Deans, it may well turn arond to bite us like Russell Coutts annd Alingi :sick:

scottrods · Post by **scottrods** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 6:04 am

Voltzy wrote:I dont like the current style of "test" play-particularly the way the africans play (but they are VERY good). What happened to the "running game"?

I think you'll find they are playing different from how they won the world cup. Actually I think the SaFa's are playing how England used to play

A big strong pack, suffocate the opposition, kick up and unders, for territory and squeeze the opposition to make mistakes that result in 3 point penalties. If you get a chance, score a try but it's optional. :whistling:

David Anderson · Post by **David Anderson** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:45 am

I agree, It's ugly rugby, but sure seems to work if you have a talented kicker..

I guess I just expected that Australia would have an answer to it after the two games the All Blacks played against the Saffies..
You can see where the aussies have improved and they did some heroic defending with two men in the bin, but there still doesn't seem to be enough drive & creativity there..

Voltzy · Post by **Voltzy** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:49 am

Who wants to win an "ugly comp"?

Its a shame considering the attacking skill on the field these days that games are won and lost on the boot of the kicker or worse, a pedant with a whistle.

Do you guys think the ELV's were a step forward?

Morsie · Post by **Morsie** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:08 am

The ELV's were definitely a step forward. The game is now all about the ref. Ref's will have managers soon and will be the highest paid people on the field, the players are only there as bit actors to provide a stage for the refs to perform on. Watch the highlight of the games on rugby dump and its nothing but a continuous series of goal kicks from ruck infringement penalties. Not so long ago these games were a feast of tries and fast moving play, now they stagger from penalty and set piece to goal kick and not much more.

Morsie

Marc LaMouche · Post by **Marc LaMouche** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 1:05 pm

Morsie wrote:Not so long ago these games were a feast of tries and fast moving play, now they stagger from penalty and set piece to goal kick and not much more.

couldn't agree more. might as well watch American Football. at least they hit a lot harder

do you guys have the 13 player game ?

Morsie · Post by **Morsie** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:14 pm

The 13 player game is the dominant rugby game in this part of the world so Union has to compete with it. With a reversion to the dinosaur game rules of the 15 man game I fear for its future i this part of the world.

Morsie

Paul Arden · Post by **Paul Arden** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 9:22 pm

The curious thing about American Football is that if you watch it quite quickly you can figure out what's going on, even if does happen incredibly slowly. The same cannot be said about Aussie Rules. I mean WTF is that about??! Are there any rules or did they forget to invent them?

At least it's considerably more interesting than cricket, with or without a purpose

NZneil · Post by **NZneil** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 10:19 pm

Who wants to win an "ugly comp"?

Everyone who enters the World Cup..and Graham Henry etc..

And this guy, seen here smashing Aussies on his way to another World cup final.

Winning ugly it works!

Morsie · Post by **Morsie** » Mon Aug 10, 2009 11:07 pm

Winning beautiful in World Cups also works as we showed in 1991 and 1999. FFS Neil no wonder you need to support two countries, NZ and England, that way you can get your world cup tally up to match Australia's. NZ would take a world cup win even if it meant using nuclear weapons.

Paul, Aussie rules has very few rules, its fast, skillful, brutal, non stop action, unlike union which grinds from ruck to ruck and then penalty to penalty. They are killing the game.........

Morsie

NZneil · Post by **NZneil** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 2:56 am

When have I ever supported the ABs ?..pull it in.

Morsie · Post by **Morsie** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 3:07 am

OK - so you only have one World Cup to brag about and a win loss ratio that's a long way in our favour. You guys make so much about a single victory, ahhh that's right, that's all you have...... Next you'll be telling me how to catch fish FFS........... :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Morsie

scottrods · Post by **scottrods** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:31 am

Morsie wrote:Paul, Aussie rules has very few rules, its fast, skillful, brutal, non stop action.........

Morsie

And thats just in the changing room with all those tight shorts and bromance going on :whistling:

Voltzy · Post by **Voltzy** » Tue Aug 11, 2009 7:46 am

I remember when some friends from the US visited, they watched some Aussie rules and described it as follows "if you got 30-40 8 year olds and gave them a football and told them to invent a game, they'd come up with something remarkably similar to Aussie rules..." and on it went, until he finished with " for fuck sake, you even get a point for missing!!"

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