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- Eric
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Got a new group starting soonish and want to square up some things, make sure everything's current. Also wouldn't mind a discussion that won't get all creeped out, so since "what do I need?" is such a favorite first question...
What are the basics? (small/medium river and lakes, trout)
Rod (#4-6, 8.5 to 9.5') and reel (line holder)
floating line (WF, DT)
9' leader, 6 or 8 LB
Tippet 4 or 5 LB
Few general flies
glasses/hat
nippers/forceps or equivalent
floatant
net
license
Suggested
polaroids
fly box
pack/vest
waders/boots
indicators/weights
Splurge
sink tip
waterproof camera
tube/fins
water-proof bag
underwear ~paul
What are the basics? (small/medium river and lakes, trout)
Rod (#4-6, 8.5 to 9.5') and reel (line holder)
floating line (WF, DT)
9' leader, 6 or 8 LB
Tippet 4 or 5 LB
Few general flies
glasses/hat
nippers/forceps or equivalent
floatant
net
license
Suggested
polaroids
fly box
pack/vest
waders/boots
indicators/weights
Splurge
sink tip
waterproof camera
tube/fins
water-proof bag
underwear ~paul
...the fish know this and are evil... ~marc
- Marc LaMouche
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Why a WF line? For some funky reason had a xxd (now MED) as one of my frst lines after havng started with DT`s years ago. To me that long belly of the MED essentially worked like a DT of some sort in fishing situations ... whenever I got the short bellied stuff of friends in my hands I was lost with mending line etc. ... so I`d advise a DT for a beginner. Much easier to understand.
Add fishing license too. Often forgotten. ;-)
Add fishing license too. Often forgotten. ;-)
a mind is a like a parachute - it doesn´t work when not open (Frank Zappa)
I think the length of the usable line is important.Eric wrote:Marc,
Why do you consider a net an essential? Because beginners aren't aware of fish handling? 1 net per group?
Thomas,
Sure, can change it to just floater (any type)
Fishing is casting and mending. We, as we mostly use proper lines are not aware of the havok a 9m or less bellied line creates for a poor fellow just starting with fishing and trying to mend line, let alone deal with overhang etc.
Fab list by the way.
a mind is a like a parachute - it doesn´t work when not open (Frank Zappa)
- Marc LaMouche
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Eric wrote:Why do you consider a net an essential? Because beginners aren't aware of fish handling? 1 net per group?
excitement, clumsiness, as you say lack of fish handling experience, etc, etc, etc. it most often leads to some sort of damage to the fish.
it doesn't matter whether they're C+R or not. everyone catches fish that are too small to legally keep and it's up to us to teach people how to do this properly. it's best to start with good habits from the beginning !
one net per fisher, the buddy's always on the other side of the water or whatever.
cheers,
marc
- Paul Arden
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A little bit, not much because most people who want to take up FF are already environmentally conscious. I do talk about safety and drum in the importance of eye protection, river crossings, electric pylons on so on.
Raincoat, proper clothing, sunscreen. There is a similar list here for stillwaters.
Cheers, Paul
Raincoat, proper clothing, sunscreen. There is a similar list here for stillwaters.
Cheers, Paul
- blackwater
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From my way:
Two pieces of (rope, thread, string, twine I do not know right word in English) in pocket for making knots, usually in different colors. It is easier
for explain: red is your line...green is you leader...now we will...
Two pieces of (rope, thread, string, twine I do not know right word in English) in pocket for making knots, usually in different colors. It is easier
for explain: red is your line...green is you leader...now we will...
Barrio Pro-Team
FFF MCI, THCI
FFF MCI, THCI
- Paul Arden
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- Marc LaMouche
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Eric wrote:How much do you talk respect for stream / lake / fish? (litter, only footprints, wild creatures). Analogy to handling wild birds that get caught inside seems to convey the panic and care in handling.
a lot. although what Paul points out about being environmentally conscious is sometimes correct but it's unfortunately not as common as we'd wish. i've seen countless fly fishers from beginners to old timers act like pigs, throwing all sorts of shit in the water and on land, throw fish back any which way, yank out barbed hooks, start camp fires when forbidden, etc, etc.
i like the bird 'caught inside' analogy. in the explanation maybe we need to include that fishes are slimy
cheers,
marc
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Eric wrote:How much do you talk respect for stream / lake / fish? (litter, only footprints, wild creatures). Analogy to handling wild birds that get caught inside seems to convey the panic and care in handling.
on a related note:
etiquette, etiquette, etiquette...
treat others as you would like to be treated, or better.
- mattklara
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Eric, I think that this should be front and center and discussed MORE than any other topic.Eric wrote:How much do you talk respect for stream / lake / fish? (litter, only footprints, wild creatures). Analogy to handling wild birds that get caught inside seems to convey the panic and care in handling.
The new area (post Movie) of fly fishing lacks, IMO, one main thing that the old era had. In the past you learned FFing from a mentor that you fished with all the time and learned the stream etiquitte from them. There was no rush. In the new world of learning FFing from guides and the internet all focused on catching fish, this critical component has been diminished or reduced to a point or two at the end of the talk.
As ambassadors of FFing, it's our job to turn that around.
mk
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