4 Oz reel ok for Sage Zxl 3wt? - Too heavy or ok...

[saflyfish]

Is a 4 Oz reel(without line & backing) too heavy for a Sage Zxl 3wt?
Opinions and advice greatly appreciated

[andy_with_a_rod]

in all likelihood yes. it's a real struggle trying to find nice light reels to fit the ultra light short rods. the sage click is the best ive found yet, a nice wide arbour and super super light. no drag system as such but lets be honest do you really need one for most three weight applications?!

[jomeder]

Hi Andy,

no drag system as such but lets be honest do you really need one for most three weight applications?!

I had a go with a 4 wt ZXL (or TXL?!) with a Sage Click and hooked a brown about 3 lb in a lake. It bolted. Unstoppable :-). Palming didn't work but I haven't done that a lot. It broke me off when it had a bunch of line out in the water IIRC. Fair enough I'd caught a bunch of smaller fish, 0.5 to 1.5 lb, and it was good and that was the first larger fish I'd hooked but it gave me the jibblies. I resolved to get a reel with a proper drag if I got a 4 weight. I'd been keen on the Click up until them, it's a nice reel. If you were going to be after smaller fish it would be fine I guess.

Regards,

Jo

[kdh]

What lenght?
I would look for something lighter for 7'6'', but I think for 8'6'' 4oz would be ok...

Klaus

[Marc LaMouche]

hooked a brown about 3 lb in a lake. It bolted. Unstoppable :-). Palming didn't work

if anybody's ever deserved Ryan's 'Gay Alarm' more than you then i don't know who would !

ffs - geeeeeeeez, just press the friggin' spool , man ! :laugh: :p

[andy_with_a_rod]

I was going to say! People have landed fifty pound salmon on click and pawl reels on eighteen foot cane rods, I think you can manage a trout jo!

[jomeder]

Hey! :-) I freely admit I haven't done much palming of reels so having a "larger" fish bolt was a bit of a surprise and it took me a bit to get my act together. Little fish weren't a problem, just needed a bit of pressure. It seems to me there's so little of the spool to palm. I know it's not exactly a lot of pressure required but it wasn't happening. Lack of skill no doubt and you'd get used to it I guess. I did get some other fish that day in the 2-3 lb range, but even so I still came away with the feeling I wanted a disk drag if I was going to get a 4 wt.

The owner of that rod and reel had trout to 8lb on it although that may have been before the Click.

I can definitely see landing a salmon with a click reel that has decent sized side plates or a palming rim.

Regards,

Jo

[crunch]

Vision CDC reels are very light and have a brake, although not powerful. Listed volumes and weights are true.

[rodfreak]

Lamson litespeed 1 or 1.5.

(Preferably the old model!)

Cheers,

John

[allegheny]

Yeah, Litespeed 1.5

[rrw35]

Hi Andy,

no drag system as such but lets be honest do you really need one for most three weight applications?!

I had a go with a 4 wt ZXL (or TXL?!) with a Sage Click and hooked a brown about 3 lb in a lake. It bolted. Unstoppable :-). Palming didn't work but I haven't done that a lot. It broke me off when it had a bunch of line out in the water IIRC. Fair enough I'd caught a bunch of smaller fish, 0.5 to 1.5 lb, and it was good and that was the first larger fish I'd hooked but it gave me the jibblies. I resolved to get a reel with a proper drag if I got a 4 weight. I'd been keen on the Click up until them, it's a nice reel. If you were going to be after smaller fish it would be fine I guess.

Regards,

Jo

RED CARD FOR USING THE WORD "PALMING"...

[Bobinmich]

The very lightest 1-3 wt. reels will be slightly over 3 Oz. I suppose the most discerning angler can feel 3/4 oz. difference. But then, I am certainly not in that cattegory. And drag, palm, or otherwise, it would take skill and practice to consistantly land those big fish with such light tackle.

[The 'GENT']

Hardy lightweight second size up, very light but expensive. I love mine.