My first go! - What does this tell you pros?

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:17 pm

Tried that with the Mac yet?

Paul Arden · Post by **Paul Arden** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:04 pm

Only when it's running Windows :p

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:35 pm

Hi Stefan

Having looked at the single front/back cast I thought a comparison of the whole sequence might be interesting.

This is Fredrik:

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:36 pm

This is you:

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:41 pm

There is a difference

The peaks above the line are backcasts. Look at what happens just after each of his backcast stops and compare that with you.
I'm not sure about any of the details but I suspect he's using 'dynamic drift' - same as Lee. His rod tip follows the line up as tension lifts the line. By comparison you 'stop' the rod.

I have no opinion of whether its good or bad, advantageous or not. Incidentally, given the direction of rotation that could be construed as 'creep' but it looks to me like its part of his casting action - it's there every time and is not a soft wishy motion.

stesiik · Post by **stesiik** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 6:52 pm

Hi Paul and Magnum!

If it's not giving the expected readings Stefan, try hitting the top right hand corner against a hard surface such as a wooden table.

Aha! So what´s how you do it? Now I get 770 d/s on every cast.

Best regards
Stefan

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:10 pm

:glare:

stesiik · Post by **stesiik** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:11 pm

Hi Magnus!

Thank you!

Fredrik and I used the same gear, he carried a longer line.

Yes, Fredrik uses dynamic drifting and goes from there into slide and then over to the next stroke. His stroke is very long. You are right, it is his style. And it´s great!

you feel a tug or surge as the line comes straight

Yes I do, all the time. I let it create some initial bend in the rod before I turn the cast. Fredrik does not use this thing the same way, my line is more taunt, his is more of hanging on for the ride.

The results we are getting are more or less the same but I belive my approach is unnecessary difficult. I get a bit less slack so I can carry a bit more, but since we are not shooting from a max carry anyway it does not really matter for distance either.

Yes, I've sort of figured out that smoothness variable the same you guys did. That is why I want to raise it.

best regards
Stefan

stesiik · Post by **stesiik** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:18 pm

Hi guys!

A short line cast. The arc is 5 degrees in the FC.

best regards
Stefan

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:19 pm

Stefan

Couple of things strike me. Using drift that way means Fredrick maintains tension. By stopping the rod tip, unless the line is at the right position to suit the rod you'll have slack. His rod will automatically be at a position that suits the line.

I'm not convinced that initial bend/tug is beneficial. It's a comforting timing cue but I don't think its helping your acceleration. You are driving the rod to a higher MAV than Fredrick and he's casting a longer line.

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 7:28 pm

Hi Stefan

I'd ignore the 5degree file. Something very odd has happened. I'd guess the connection came loose on the capsule.

Magnus

fredrikh · Post by **fredrikh** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:01 pm

Hi!

Thanks for the graphs Magnus! That peak after the bc could be me following the line up as it straightens. Could also be a gripshift. Or is it too early? The gripshift might comes later on? I'm to tired to think right now, will have a look at them tomorrow.

Cheers,
Fredrik

stesiik · Post by **stesiik** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 9:15 pm

Hi Magnus!

I'm not convinced that initial bend/tug is beneficial. It's a comforting timing cue but I don't think its helping your acceleration.

Yeah, I am starting to think along the same lines. For short lines loops get very pretty and control/contact is awesome. Upper legs are very straight.

But on longer lines there are sort of more to overcome early in the stroke. Rod bends quite deep early and that affects how loosely I can hold the rod and also how I can apply the power. That might explain why many of my longest casts are made with softer rods too.

Trying to loosen that thing up, but it feels very new and strange to not have that heavy feeling in the rod throughout the whole casting cycle anymore. It´s been there for like 18 years.

Line is flapping around more too, very different. But loops look pretty good and the rod is much easier to rotate late.

We are both getting good tension, slack is not a major issue for either of us I belive? Handling it might even be one of the things we both do best. We both set the rod along the line at the end of the turnover.

Intersted in a -100% rod load?

Best regards
Stefan

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:00 pm

Dunno what it is your doing but that suffers from the same problem you have in the 5 degree file.

stesiik · Post by **stesiik** » Wed Jun 10, 2009 6:26 am

Hi Magnus!

Aha! I gave it the Arden laptop treatment. Now it works fine.

Maybe it´s the plug in the capsule? I have to push it back ones in a while. Is it allright if I dip it in superglue Magnus?

Best regards
Stefan

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