Drift

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:43 pm

Just pick one of the 14 terms listed and lets see.

Magnus · Post by **Magnus** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:44 pm

Certainly you have an available arc with or without drift off the prior backcast, that much is all to obvious.

Thank you. So this:

If you have an available arc it's only as a result of increasing the size of the arc from repositioning off the previous backcast.

IS nonsense.

Now if you want to try re-writing that post so it makes some sense - I'm not stopping you. But at the moment it's nonsense.

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:46 pm

Yeah okay nothing like stating the obvious makes it more obvious.

Stoatstail50 · Post by **Stoatstail50** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:48 pm

Its OK I've got it now....

Tip Path....a hyperbolic quaternion forming a union of split-complex number planes sharing the same real line

Dunno how I missed that first time round...

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:49 pm

I figured you duck and run.......and you have.

Stoatstail50 · Post by **Stoatstail50** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:53 pm

Aww come on...tell me what it is cos' I'm fked if I know what you are talking about...

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:56 pm

Well ya got 14 terms there and only one is the largest agent of change as it relates to loop formation. And you better hurry up because I leave for the Tropics Saturday morning for the following 4 weeks.

Paul Arden · Post by **Paul Arden** » Thu May 05, 2011 4:58 pm

Frank LoPresti wrote:It's not my model so I can't tell you how it should read. Moving the rod to adjust the available casting arc does not add or subtract anything the way the original is written. If you have an available arc it's only as a result of increasing the size of the arc from repositioning off the previous backcast. That action increased the available arc for the coming cast. That is the arc that will be used for the coming cast, yes it is available but it cannot be compromised by rotationally drifting the rod in the direction of the coming cast as that action will reduce the effectiveness of the arc available, that's what creep does, it reduces the available casting arc, so the way it is currently written this is no longer between strokes but during the stroke. The caster dictates the arc. The caster also dictates the motion that is applied within the constraints of that predetermined arc. An arc that contains within it, during the early portion of the casting arc or stroke, continuous slow rod rotation reduces the effectiveness or compromises the size that predetermined arc with slow rotation.

Thanks. Is this your only problem with our definitions?

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:02 pm

it's certainly not a problem as far as you're concerned and it's certainly not my problem. No problema.

Stoatstail50 · Post by **Stoatstail50** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:02 pm

Frank....you trying to go down that Arc path again ?, we have been here so many times before and it is a dead end....
...four whole weeks...dunno how I'll survive 'til you're back...

Paul Arden · Post by **Paul Arden** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:02 pm

How about Drag? A comparison on FFFDC Drag would be useful

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:07 pm

Stoatstail50 wrote:in SL terms "Drift".

Anyway, in the example you are putting I would try very hard not to

Yes well thank you Mark but you already have answered my question. As did Paul as did I, a big resounding no !

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:13 pm

The only thing I know about Drag Paul, is that it reduces the available length of the stroke.

Paul Arden · Post by **Paul Arden** » Thu May 05, 2011 6:44 pm

So your definitions are not going to be used by distance casters either.

Frank LoPresti · Post by **Frank LoPresti** » Thu May 05, 2011 6:54 pm

haven't met any distance casters yet including myself who use any type of definitions to cast with.

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