Funny looking loop

[Djordje]

Rich Mend Down

[Hal Jordan]

I think boingy-boingy rod with too tight of a grip explains the amount of counterflex, since this is actually the second counterflex, at the time of the picture.

Shooting line with either a downward mend or lots of follow through explains the step in the line.

My 5 grams of shiny new pennies worth.

[VGB]

With the 2nd counterflex releasing line tension before re-applying it?

[alp]

Hi,
Maybe the gentleman on the photo knows what he is doing and the funny looking loop is not by accident? It seems to me that he's pretty good caster.

Sharp down (and then up) movement of the rod tip will produce a vertical wave on the rod leg traveling in direction of the cast. I'm pretty sure that the result of this funny looking loop will be a straight line on the water with collapsed leader and maybe the line tip.

Useful technique for downstream presentation as an alternative to wiggle mend. I use that occasionally. Easy to demonstrate with long headed line, not sure for Evotec 85. I'll try that tomorrow.

I apologize for my bad English and and poor explanation.

Cheers, Alexandar

[wjc]

A cast and release with too late a release?

[Marc LaMouche]

With the 2nd counterflex releasing line tension before re-applying it?

why not, Vince ?

[VGB]

With the 2nd counterflex releasing line tension before re-applying it?

why not, Vince ?

Hi Marc

I was in furious agreement with Hal but pitched it as a question because as a shit caster I wondered if I was missing something. I think that he has tried to power the cast and has not been able to dampen the resultant large counterflex. It appears that line tension has been applied, removed, then re-applied.

Just my 0.00034260882781 slugs worth :p

regards

Vince

[Marc LaMouche]

oh, i think Hal was furiously agreeing with post no. 9

I think that he has tried to power the cast and has not been able to dampen the resultant large counterflex.

my feeling is if the cast had been over-powered it would show in the loop's rod and fly legs with most probably a tail or an almost-tail (i don't want to use the TT word ) and there's no sign of that.
fwiw, the

line tension has been applied, removed, then re-applied

idea is indeed a good one but after trying this out yesterday with good rods and shitty-heavy ones i'm still (for the moment ) quite convinced it has more to do with over-gripping and the effect of a sluggish rod. but once again, it's just a guess

cheers,
marc

[VGB]

Marc

I'll defer to your experience. It's in my mind because I was doing something very similar at lunchtime practise on the local rugby pitch. I think that the symptoms would be the same - insufficient total damping for a given power application.

However, if I hear another welsh builder tell me I won't catch any fish there, I will make a Gaelic lollipop

regards

Vince

[Marc LaMouche]

I'll defer to your experience.

thanks but i'm a beginner

as to grass practice comments, smile and tellem' the only thing you caught where a bunch of stupid comments...
they usually shut up

[VGB]

I was thinking about getting a t-shirt made with "No shit Sherlock" written on the back.

[Marc LaMouche]

in that case, i'll be the one throwing stupid comments in your direction... :kungfo:

[VGB]

in that case, i'll be the one throwing stupid comments in your direction... :kungfo:

The t-shirt is for me to wear while I practised

[Marc LaMouche]

that's what i understood from the beginning...

[Paul Arden]

So is this a deliberate cast and, if so, what's the purpose of it?

Slack line presentation, somewhere in the line. I often use vertical mends to accurately place a small pile of slack. FWIW looks like an excellent caster to me.

Cheers, Paul