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45 degree DS
- Paul Arden
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45 degree DS
Hi Guys,
how do you teach bringing the anchor level with the shoulder with this cast?
It seems to me that it's probably not worth trying to do, but you could try,
1) fishing the dangle to the inside,
2) cutting in - which is risky
3) making a backwards snake, which defeats the advantages of the DS.
Is there an easier way?
Thanks, Paul
how do you teach bringing the anchor level with the shoulder with this cast?
It seems to me that it's probably not worth trying to do, but you could try,
1) fishing the dangle to the inside,
2) cutting in - which is risky
3) making a backwards snake, which defeats the advantages of the DS.
Is there an easier way?
Thanks, Paul
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1 get the most line angle outstream out of your line set during the first upstream lay. "Fishing inbank beyond parrallel to the bank is a good start"
2 jump anchor into good position by reversing tip path into d loop outside of laying line " takes lots of practice"..
3 use very short heads which can be pushed to perform well when set up out of position
2 jump anchor into good position by reversing tip path into d loop outside of laying line " takes lots of practice"..
3 use very short heads which can be pushed to perform well when set up out of position
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Why do you need the anchor level with your shoulder from a teaching perspective?
Easiest way of doing this is to leave a lot more line downstream after the initial move of line upstream, then in the second part as you sweep back around you end up with the anchor a little further in front of you but a decent D loop and enough energy to deliver the cast, it conforms to the 180 degree rule, gives you an anchor and a d loop, is there another speycasting rule I don't know about?
Chris
Easiest way of doing this is to leave a lot more line downstream after the initial move of line upstream, then in the second part as you sweep back around you end up with the anchor a little further in front of you but a decent D loop and enough energy to deliver the cast, it conforms to the 180 degree rule, gives you an anchor and a d loop, is there another speycasting rule I don't know about?
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Hi Trev,TrevH wrote:Paul Arden wrote:.... just a case of putting the spiral in the right place.
How do you find the Nymph Taper compares to the Barrio SLX for this, Paul?
Cheers
Trev
I found significante differency in the turnover between the 5wt., 6wt. and especially the 7wt. Nymph Taper fly lines.
The higher the line weight, the more powerful the turnover seems to get. The 7wt. brought in a too heavy turnover for smooth delievery on most of my Spey casts.
The 5wt. performed great to me and the 6wt. was still ok, too.
The SLX has a smoother turnover and the head is little longer.
The SLF has a 10meters (33 feet) head (incl. rear taper) while the Nymph Taper has a 8,2m head (27 feet). Therefore the Nymph taper will be a bit more unstaple during distance shoots.
That is why I prefered the SLX for my Spey casting.
The Nymph Taper performed very well when cutting of half a meter of the tip section and then add a 2 meter poly leader! That made it much more staple during the shoots.
Greets
Bernd
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Hi Paul,Paul Arden wrote:1) fishing the dangle to the inside,
2) cutting in - which is risky
3) making a backwards snake, which defeats the advantages of the DS.
Is there an easier way?
Thanks, Paul
try to start the rod movement for the first upstream lay of the line with the rod in a slightly more vertical plane and then during the sweep tilt the rod plane down (or out). That helps me to set the first lay upstream get squared to the 45° final delievery cast.
Combining that with the inbank lift works well for me.
I like to think of the rod plane as a tool to control how far away of my position the line should be positioned on every lay.
Greets
Bernd
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Hey Paul,
how do you change rod plane during this movement from the start of the lift towards the lay?
Greets
B
p.s.: How is weather in Hungary? :p
how do you change rod plane during this movement from the start of the lift towards the lay?
Greets
B
p.s.: How is weather in Hungary? :p
Bernd Ziesche
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