Please Critique - Can someone critque this video?

[redcoat]

Here's a video on YouTube - part of a series on fly casting.

Would someone be able to critique it for me - is it teaching me the right things?! Loops? Improvements needed? I've found it very useful to have video that shows BOTH the hand/arm movement and the line at the same time, but want to avoid early mistakes.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v....search=

Thanks!!

David

PS I have a related question posted here: http://www.sexyloops.co.uk/cgi-bin....y120188

[Magnus]

Redcoat

In general it's ok. Are you suspicious?
That's part of something longer, just the section on why a novice needs to learn how to false-cast, so there's no mention of a heap of more fundamental teaching/casting concepts. His idea that you should false cast at most three times is a fine rule of thumb for novice casters and or for casting short distances.

I don't think you can learn to cast from that wee clip if that's what you're asking. He doesn't mention using false casting to extend line - but that's not what the lesson is about. His loops are ok - hard to judge from that camera angle.

[victor]

Am I the only one who has a problem watching that guy?. I think its all that hair, I find it very off putting :p.

David,

It does what it does, which is to give you a basic idea but there is better stuff out there. I think the very best beginners DVD is Bill Gammels, it goes right through the basics up to double hauling and everything is explained along the way. He is a board member so you can PM him for more information on how to get hold of a copy.

Mike

[Kristian]

Funny you mentioned it, Victor, his style reminded me of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g

Cheers

Kristian

[kdh]

Hi David,
I clicked through the whole series and must admit that I am not impressed. If you want to learn from video I would buy a good instructional dvd (Mel Krieger or something similar)- or best of all book a lesson with an instructor- in a few lessons I learned more than in years trying to get it right on my own!
Cheers,Klaus

[kdh]

Sabotage Casting...

[redcoat]

Thanks, everyone...

Forgot to mentiont that this is just one in a series...!

Ideally I would like to find a good instructor - I'm here in Lexington, KY - any pointers on finding one? I'm a bit wary as there seems to be a least several different ways to cast...

I'll try and ping Bill Gammels to get a copy of his DVD too...

Guess I'll post my other question here too - related Concerns loop shape in backcast after false cast. If I've false cast forwards and coming back for the back cast - will the loop be above or beneath the horizontal?

cheers,

David

[Magnus]

David

Look for an FFF certified instructor. Almost certain one of the guys can suggest someone.

There are a few different styles of casting but most modern instructors try to teach sound mechanics. There's a few ways to teach - I'd be more concerned that the instructor you get is a good teacher.

Ideally, for a basic overhead cast, the back cast should be horizontal. At the point where you start forwards the line should be straight or very close to it and for short line casting that should be horizontal.
There are no hard rules apart from the loop should straighten and the most efficient cast means forward and backwards are at 180 degrees to one another. (Less than 180 and there's a tendency to throw tailing loops.)

Incidentally- if you're truly brave - shoot some video of you casting and get it up here for advice.

[Paul Arden]

At the point where you start forwards the line should be straight or very close to it and for short line casting that should be horizontal.

Just to add something to this, for a shorter cast your casting plane should be tilted forward slightly, ie slightly above the horizontal on the backcast and angled down closer to the target on the forward cast - otherwise it's almost impossible to be accurate.

If I've false cast forwards and coming back for the back cast - will the loop be above or beneath the horizontal?

In addition to the above relating to length of line, when casting into the wind you need to tilt your casting arc forwards, and when casting with the wind backwards (ie backcast below horizontal). Lesson two in the beginners section :p

Cheers, Paul

[rrw35]

Funny you mentioned it, Victor, his style reminded me of this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-sbqIyeed4g

Cheers

Kristian

Very Good Kristian.

He does have that "70's Porn Star" look.

"Hi, i'm here to fix zee plumbing"....wah..wah...wah.

I can almost hear the hammond organ. :laugh:

[Jay Clark]

Red,

There is a casting club in Lexington at the bluegrass sportmens league. I can give you some people to contact if you want.

[Al Greig]

"...and once you have learned how to false cast properly, I'll demonstrate how to bend a spoon by rubbing it gently with the fingers."

[redcoat]

Ideally, for a basic overhead cast, the back cast should be horizontal. At the point where you start forwards the line should be straight or very close to it and for short line casting that should be horizontal.
There are no hard rules apart from the loop should straighten and the most efficient cast means forward and backwards are at 180 degrees to one another. (Less than 180 and there's a tendency to throw tailing loops.)

Not sure I explained my question well enough - I wondering about when the forward cast has rolled out straight and you begin the back cast of the false cast. Will the line from here to the back cast stay above the horizontal? On the video on YouTube it appears that it doesn't.

Interestingly, I just spotted the animation at the bottom of rrw35's post (post number 10 in this thread) - is that a text-book false cast, or how should that look in a perfect world?

Incidentally- if you're truly brave - shoot some video of you casting and get it up here for advice.

Brave, or foolish?!! Actually, if I can get some good video, I may be desperate enough to do so!

cheers,

David

[redcoat]

Red,

There is a casting club in Lexington at the bluegrass sportmens league. I can give you some people to contact if you want.

Yep, that would be great! Are you local?!

[Paul Arden]

Interestingly, I just spotted the animation at the bottom of rrw35's post (post number 10 in this thread) - is that a text-book false cast, or how should that look in a perfect world?

No, both forward and backcasts have started too soon. The loop would both tail and collapse.